Presidential Smackdown: Theodore Roosevelt vs. Ronald Reagan

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By DNCalkins

Who would win in a fight?

Nearly a century separates the 25th and 40th presidents of the United States, but they shared several traits and experiences.

Both set trends in domestic and foreign policy that would influence American politics for generations. Both belonged to the Republican party (any debate about the differences between the politics of the Republican party of 1899 and the Republican party of 1981 is beyond the scope of this Hub). Both were treated for cancer while in office. Both survived near-fatal assassination attempts (though Roosevelt was no longer in office when shot). Both were nearly deified by their supporters and thought to be dangerously insane by their critics.

The most important question is, of course, if we had these two Chief Executives locked in a room together...who would win in a fight?

Let's take a look at our combatants.

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President Theodore Roosevelt

One of Roosevelt's most celebrated claims to fame is his charge up San Juan hill in Cuba during the Spanish-American war. Roosevelt commanded a regiment of irregular cavalry that he had put together from various cowboys like those he had known during his days as a rancher. These 'Rough Rider's were particularly instrumental in neutralizing a Spanish garrison on Kettle Hill, which overlooked the American approach to San Juan hill, thus ensuring the safety of the invading army's flank. During the action, Roosevelt displayed nearly suicidal bravery which eventually won him the Congressional Medal of Honor (posthumous).

You heard that right: Theodore Roosevelt was also a cowboy. He never made much of success at it though. One of his primary faults, by his own admission, was a complete ineptitude at finances. Running a ranch is first and foremost, a business. So while, he could ride and shoot masterfully, he was unable to keep from driving his ranch into a deep ditch.

He also wrote around eighteen books, volumes of articles and an absolutely Pauline amount of letters. A smart guy was our TR.

Finally, and perhaps most applicable to our subject, Roosevelt sported a magnificent mustache for most of his adult life.

President Ronald Wilson Reagan

The lifeguard who became an actor. The actor who became President. The President who couldn't remember his Vice President's name.

Reagan was an odd duck. He managed to charm people, personally and diplomatically, while seemingly not knowing who the hell they were (including important contemporary figures like Gorbachev and Thatcher). After his presidency, when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease, many critics blamed his strange behavior on an earlier than diagnosed (or admitted) onset of the disease. But if that were true, it must have started sometime around February 6, 1911 (his birthday), because Reagan was similarly weird his entire life.

Despite his oddity, Reagan was whip-smart until his decline. He read voraciously and showed detailed understanding of topics that interested him. That's the key in my interpretation. Reagan had no use for things that he wasn't interested in. They either confused or bored him (to sleep). The important question is: how interested is he in his upcoming bout with President Roosevelt?

As an actor, Reagan brought his jackass grin (I actually find his acting to at least be entertaining, but I swear he's mocking the viewer with that grin!) to audiences throughout the early days of Hollywood, where he met both of his wives, flirted with the Communist party until it rejected him and then did his best to stomp out it's presence in Hollywood as the President of the Screen Actor's Guild.

Like Roosevelt, Reagan also served his country in time of war. But, unlike his opponent, Reagan never saw combat. Instead, he was one of the pioneers of an entirely new face of warfare. During the second world war, Reagan was part of the 1st Motion Picture Unit, making propaganda and training films throughout American involvement in that war.


Disclaimer #1: I do not pretend that these briefs constitute a complete examination of the history, accomplishments, strengths or faults of these Presidents. Such an examination is beyond the scope of this Hub. I'm only looking at brief histories and factors applicable to the upcoming battle!

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LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!

As previously mentioned, President Reagan's interest in a thing seemed to determine his excellence in it. It's hard to imagine that Reagan would be terribly interested in fighting President Roosevelt, a man he admired. He'd probably be confused at the pointlessness of the match and spend the opening moments glancing around our hypothetical room for his wife, Nancy, to explain the whole thing to him.

On the other hand, the pointlessness of a fight is unlikely to prove an impediment to Roosevelt. He just liked to fight, rhetorically, politically or physically. Reason came second, if at all. To quote TR's longtime friend and enemy Elihu Root: "When he gets into a fight, he is completely dominated by the desire to destroy his adversary."

But in this case, I've no doubt that Roosevelt would find reason (legitimate or not) to be enraged at Reagan. Roosevelt was a champion for social justice. But he was also an aristocrat born and bred. His idea of social justice was gently dispensed by an unreachable but benevolent upper class. To TR, the common people had little place in politics and an actor certainly would only besmirch the hallowed office of the presidency. That Reagan was elected twice to Roosevelt's once (he inherited his first term after the assassination of President McKinley) would only rankle more!

And then there's the mustache factor to consider. Roosevelt mustache: spectacular. Reagan mustache: doesn't exist.

Sorry Ronnie. It's a landslide.

1st Presidential Smackdown Champion: Theodore Roosevelt

Final Disclaimer

This hub should not be taken as the political opinion of the author or as any sort of criticism of its subjects. It should really not be taken seriously at all!

What do YOU think?

Now that you've seen the case, who do you think would win in s fight?

  • Theodore Roosevelt
  • Ronald Reagan
  • William Howard Taft's mustache
  • Don't Know
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WesternHistory Level 2 Commenter 6 months ago

If you research the time that TR was governor in New York you will find that he occasionally "wrestled" with some of the people who came to call on him. Not sure that was the case with Ronald Reagan's official visitors.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

Anecdotes indicate that he also wrestled an unwilling Vice-President Taft in the Oval Office more than once during his second term.

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Nils Visser Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

I already liked TR, he was quite a character, and like him all the more after reading your commentary.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

I find Reagan to be an interesting character too, but I'm afraid that Roosevelt over-matches him on all levels.

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Simone Smith Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

Boy, I thought Roosevelt was a shoe in, but then I saw William Howard Taft's mustache in your poll and was like... OH SNAP!!! There's no beating THAT 'stach. Awesome Hub, DNCalkins. I look forward to reading more of your work.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

Yeah, Taft himself was a puffball, but his mustache was mighty in a way few others manage!

Glad you enjoyed the hub!

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Freeway Flyer Level 4 Commenter 6 months ago

From what I understand, Taft could maybe take both of them by just sitting on them. He supposedly had a bit of a weight issue.

Since Reagan was never in a real fight as far as I know, I agree with your conclusion. Reagan was also pretty ancient by the time he was president, while Roosevelt was the youngest to ever serve in the office. After getting his butt kicked, the Alzheimers may have surfaced a bit sooner.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

Yeah, Reagan was a....something, not a fighter. Though I understand it was a near thing between him and Errol Flynn a few times.

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Paladin_ Level 5 Commenter 6 months ago

Although Reagan appeared to be in amazing physical shape in his later years, I think if we're talking a hypothetical contest between him and Teddy Roosevelt, it's no contest. TR was a tough old bird. Legend has it that, after he was shot by his would-be assassin, he continued to finish his speech, THEN sought treatment! I also get the impression he loved a good fight.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

TR's bloody-shirted speech after getting shot is more a matter of historical fact than legend. It *sounds* like legend, but so much of the man's life does!

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mary615 Level 8 Commenter 6 months ago

I would say TR, hands down. From what I have read about him, he was a fighter through and through. Interesting Hub.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

Keep watching, this is only the first Presidential Smackdown! Theodore will need to defend his title some day soon!

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Paladin_ Level 5 Commenter 6 months ago

The obvious choice for the next contender is Andrew Jackson, another scrapper!

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

We'll see... :)

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ripplemaker Level 6 Commenter 6 months ago

As I am not from America, this is interesting for me! :) To Roosevelt for winning! LOL

Congratulations too on your Hubnuggets nomination. Grab a mustache and head this way to read and vote http://koffeeklatchgals.hubpages.com/_hubnuggets6/ Have a wonderful Hubnuggety week!

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

This first bout was bound to be American-centric, I'm afraid. But I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope to tap into other figures from around the world in future 'Exhibition' style bouts.

I'm also (in)appropriately excited about the HubNugget nomination!

Thanks for reading!

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weestro Level 6 Commenter 6 months ago

This hub is awesome, I will definitely be looking out for the next smackdown! I agree with Paladin, Andrew Jackson may be the guy to beat!

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

I can't promise that the next bout will be Andrew Jackson, but he is definitely on the docket!

Thanks for reading!

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WannaB Writer Level 7 Commenter 6 months ago

What an interesting an original idea for a hub! After the evidence you presented, I'd have to bet on TR if I were a gambling person, which I'm not. Voted up and more.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for reading!

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Old Empresario Level 2 Commenter 6 months ago

Good matchup. One was Dutch and one was called "Dutch". Both were married twice. One would have been better suited as a European Duke, while the other was of peasant stock and married into money. Both men had been shot at some point in their lives...but Reagan, a man in his late 70s with black hair dye, wouldn't stand a chance. His hip would break on first contact.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 6 months ago

That's true, TR was one of the youngest presidents and Reagan was one of the oldest. For the sake of fairness, I was considering them both in their physical prime.

But I'm still pretty certain that even a 60-year malaria-racked TR would still take a young, spry R.W. Reagan down.

Thanks for reading!

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TimArends 5 months ago

Why pick on Reagan? By all accounts, Reagan was a kindly man. Why not pick on Obama? After all, he's our sitting president. What's the matter, are you afraid of being called "racist?" I can't understand the liberal tendency to dig up graves in order to find someone to attack, just so as to distract attention from their current liberal failures. Pitiful.

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DNCalkins Hub Author 5 months ago

:)

I've been waiting for someone to come flailing at me, whining about the result of this first bout. I'm excited that you're the first!

First off: did you read the hub? Did you notice its lack of politics and focus on history? Or perhaps a lack of criticism (aside from sheer combat ability) of either gladiator? If not, I suggest you try again. Harder. You might learn something. It won't hurt much.

Secondly: I 'dug up the graves' of both REPUBLICAN contestants. Indeed, the number of living presidents is fast shrinking and none of them are as much fun as TR and Reagan. So do you suggest that history limit itself to only living people in order to avoid...offending the corpses of the dead?

Thirdly, and finally: Reagan played action heroes in the movies. Roosevelt WAS an action hero. 'Nuff said.

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